Here, I’ll be discussing the problem of personal identity. My aim is to offer a brief historical account of the problem touching briefly on bodily identity followed by Hume’s take on it. ‘Psychological continuity theories’ (PCT) are most popular (Parfit, Noonan, etc.) but I won’t discuss the details of them in this post (maybe future posts). Rather, I’d like to touch on Hume’s view and offer some reasons for thinking it can be described as a PCT view. I won’t have a robust view worked out, not yet anyway, as my main purposes here are to generate some discussion as to what readers think about the concept after getting a brief run-down/refresher as to what the problem entails. First, to get started, why should anyone (including non-philosophers) care about personal identity? Here, an answer by Harold Noonan, in his book “Personal Identity”(2003 Routledge) is spot on when he says;
Man has always hoped to survive his bodily death, and it is a central tenet of many religions that such survival is possible, and what forms, if any, it might take, are matters which depend crucially on the nature of personal identity over time. For to survive, in the sense that concerns us, means to continue to exist as persons identifiable as those here and now
For me, the intimate connection between personal identity (PI) on the one hand and the concept of moral responsibility for past actions and practices of praise and blame on the other has forced me to wrestle with what it means to be a person as a continuing entity through time. If we suddenly gave up on the notion of personal identity, or, if we were to fail to give a plausible account of it, we would be hard-pressed to justify both our moral and emotional responses to persons committing unethical acts against us or others. So, let’s first discuss what history has to tell us about the concept of identity before moving to the specific views.
What do we mean when we refer to the “I” when we make claims about ourselves? Not to sound cliche but the concept of personal identity has baffled philosophers for centuries. All theories of personal identity seem to have their short-falls, yet, we have no trouble claiming the “we” exist in some enduring way. But what is it about us that endures over time?
VERY BRIEF HISTORY OF IDENTITY
The Philosophical term ‘identity’ is a relational term, specifically, a relation that x and y stand in, just in case they are the same thing, or identical to each other. For instance, the claim that a book at time t1 is the same book at time t1+1 is an identity claim. Metaphysical questions surrounding identity are broad and vexing. For instance, what does it mean for an object to be the same as itself? If an object does change (even slightly) what does it mean for that object, person or not, to be the same? Philosopher/Mathematician Gottfried Leibniz has a way of dealing with such questions. Leibniz Law, as it is referred to, claims that “x is the same as y if and only if every predicate true of x is true of y as well.”
This all seems pretty straight-forward, right? So where lies the problem? Well, many of the things that we refer to on a day-to-day basis (even minute to minute) are changing (some changes are obvious while most are so slight that we don’t even recognize them). Our environment is always changing and these changes affect the object of reference. Think of the example of the book again. If I tear a page, is it the same book? If I tear half the pages, same book? How about if I white out the pages and write new words on every page, same book? The questions are endless. Identity claims seem to fall prey to the problem of vagueness, but, rather than focus on the problem I’d like to turn to some possible answers. In light of what has been said thus far regarding the book example, what would it mean for any of ‘us’ to have an identity? First, I’ll mention the initial arguments that one might have before moving on to David Hume. Keep in mind that this is a gross generalization.
BODILY IDENTITY
Probably the most intuitive view, but the least popular with philosophers (at least the generic understanding of it). Bodily identity is the claim that personal identity is no different from identity of other objects, like a book. This view conforms to our ordinary usage of identity terms and makes sense, prima facie, but is has some glaring problems.
Earlier, when referencing the book I asked a series of questions. Tear a page, same book? Tear a chapter, same book? Etc. The point there was to put some pressure on when in fact the book would cease to exist, we can do the same with bodily identity. If you lost an arm, are you still you? What about all your limbs? How about all your organs? How about everything? At what point is it not you? How about if I remove your brain and place it into someone else’s body, are you still you or does your change in body change who you are? If you think that the person that has your brain but a completely different body is you then you must reject the bodily identity theory in favor of a more specific, brain criterion theory (we’ll get back to the brain theory in subsequent posts). Any way you cut it the brain is of crucial importance when thinking about personal identity, it seems much more important than the body, as a whole. Regardless of its shortfalls this is one way to cash out the notion of personal identity.
HUME ON IDENTITY
Hume actually rejects the notion of personal identity over time, however, I’ll pose his theory as one that could be taken as a version of a memory theory.
Hume says that all that “we” are is a bundle of perceptions at any given reference point. The ‘self’ for Hume, when perceived as something fixed through time, is an illusion. Strict identity claims are simply false when talking about ourselves as persisting through time.The bundle of perceptions changes with each experience, therefore, there is no one enduring ‘self’ that persists through each experience.

Hume thinks that the ‘self’ as a concept that persists through time is an illusion.
So, what we identify as ourselves at any one point in time is different from any other point in time because the bundle has changed. The new experience or impressions have necessarily changed the bundle from its previous state. Think of the bundle of perceptions as a pile of bricks. Once we add another brick to the pile the pile has changed. Necessarily, this means that the pile is not the same. And, since identity relations are, according to Hume, strict claims (following Leibnitz’s Law), then we are not warranted in calling ourselves the same at any two points in time. So, the Justin that’s writing this post is different from the Justin that walked into the office this morning. Strictly speaking, I’m not the same guy that walked into the room a few hours ago. Initially, I wanted to reject this view out of hand. How could it be that I am not the same as I was a few hours ago? Sure, changes occur, but I’m no longer Justin? The notion seemed ridiculous! But, if it is, why? Well, Hume gives us some good motivation for thinking this way about ourselves. First, our minds, according to Hume, readily pass from one thing to another. When things resemble one another we automatically relate them with use of our imagination. This is why we call a door a door even though we may never have seen that particular door which we are referring to. Hume gives us a much deeper story than this, but, again, I’m purposely being quick and fast here. So, because I resemble my past ‘self’ of a few hours ago, I quickly move to the claim that I am the same person that entered the office. But, if we think long and hard about who we are or what we are it seems that Hume might be right (there are many responses one could give here). Are we not a collection or a bundle of perceptions at any given time? Sure, his initial claim that we are not the same at any two points doesn’t seem intuitive, but, that aside, it sure seems right. If we are not a bundle or collection of perceptions then what are we? This bundle will surely include our memories of our past and the current perceptions I am taking in now. It seems like a linguistic convention to call Justin, Justin, at any given time. And that’s fine with me, but strictly speaking, I am not the same. So, what can we mean when we make a claim about ourselves?
When I say “I will go home in an hour” I’m referring to the bundle of perceptions that is related by past experiences to the bundle that will walk out the door. I may be wrong in my claim that ‘I’ will leave in an hour (I may take longer or turn in sooner, but, I will leave at some point), the ‘I’ is simply a quick and fast way of identifying who will walk out the door. My wife is different than me, this seems obvious. I can’t claim that it will be her that walks out the door because she does not have the same relation to the bundle walking out the door as I will when ‘I’ make the move. So, personal identity is then a detailed relation between one bundle and another. That relation must be a continuous one from one bundle to the next. And, though strictly speaking, I am not “identical” to the bundle of 5 minutes ago, a view such as this can still account for the “I” by relations between bundles connected through memory. One need not have a fixed memory or even a good one to be a person or a self on this account. This gets us around those who have Alzheimer’s. They are still persons on this view. And, it might get around some of the issues related to memory as we’ll see in later posts. But, let’s look at some problems and questions that arise for this view.
Is our bundle of perceptions every perception we have ever had? I don’t remember some things, did those things that I have forgotten not play any role in who I am today? And, if I don’t remember something how can it actually be in my bundle? Surely my past actions play some sort of role in how I perceive a particular situation, but how can this theory account for those experiences being “our own”. For instance, we have no recollection of our childhood ages of 0-5 (at least I don’t), but surely, as psychological research has pointed out, these years are crucial to our development. The things we learned in the past surely affected the person we were at 12 and the person at 12 surely affected the person we were at 18, and so on.
I don’t necessarily think this is the best view of identity but it seems plausible. Parfit has an intriguing view as well, but, I’ll save that for a later post. I should also mention that I am not endorsing this Humean view, I’m just toying with it a bit.
Sreejith
September 30, 2012
Excellent presentation of the problem. Looking forward to hear more from you on the issue of personal identity. Wishing that you will provide us the view on personal identity which you think is the best.
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Justin Caouette
October 1, 2012
Thanks, Sreejith.
I’ll be writing some of my own thoughts on the problem of identity in the coming months. I finish my course work this semester and plan on writing much more of my own thoughts on most philosophical matters at that point.
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Sreejith
October 1, 2012
Sounds great. Looking forward for your thoughts 🙂
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jondayblog
October 20, 2012
Hi, Just have a question for you?
In your post you write: First, to get started, why should anyone (including non-philosophers) care about personal identity?
What makes a philosopher ? Do you think each of us has the potential to be one of Plato’s ‘philosopher kings’ or does it take something more?
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Justin Caouette
October 20, 2012
Thanks for the questions, jonday.
What makes a philosopher?
Anyone who seeks to understand the world they live in.
Traditionally the term refers to a “lover of wisdom”.
Now, I do not think that everyone has the potential to be what Plato called a “Philosopher King (PK)”. A Philosopher king was someone who is good at Philosophy, or, at least that’s how I perceived the PK. If I remember correctly, Plato thought any philosopher could fit the role of PK. However he would likely deny that Anyone has the potential to be a philosopher.
A good Philosopher requires excellent analytic skills, these skills can be cultivated but some people just can’t grasp them. So, many of us could be good, and subsequent PK’s, but not all of us.
Plato himself thought only a few could be philosopher kings. Maybe he was thinking that only a few of us could be philosopher’s as well. I think many of us could be philosophers, but only a few can be good at it. Those would be my selections for PK’s, but, I’m not entirely sure Plato would cash it out that way. So, I hope I’ve answered your question. It was fairly loaded since you were asking both what I thought and you incorporated a Platonic notion. I wasn’t sure if you were looking for Plato’s answer or mine.
Great question (not identity related, but great question regardless). 🙂
Cheers!
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lesrainbows
November 19, 2012
Hi Justin, thank you for your view on identity. I believe our thoughts are what we attract to us based in our level of awareness. We have a choice with which to identify with. We are the watcher, the consciousness that decides…I think.
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NickAndrea19
November 21, 2012
Justin, this is a very interesting post. The Buddha’s explanation of the experience of selfhood is similar to that of Hume, saying that the experience of selfhood comes from an aggregation of 5 factors, or skandhas – form, sensation, perception, mental formations, and discernment. These five skandhas come together to create the experience of a distinct being – “I.”
Furthermore, being subject to the laws of cause and effect, they most certainly change over time. Thus, I think a useful analogy of the experience of selfhood is to liken it to a river that ebbs and flows and changes over time, but stretches more or less unbroken through time. Therefore, the Justin who walked in the office this morning, while not being identical to the Justin writing this blog post right now, is closer to him than the Justin who was wearing diapers many years ago.
In addition, quantum physics shows us that the boundaries of, well, just about anything, are a lot fuzzier than our five senses perceive. This is how precognition or psychic phenomena occur – there must be some underlying ground or connective tissue that spans space and time. I am sure this is what is meant by the Quantum Field.
This all leave the question, however, that if selfhood is just an experience and not an absolute, what is it having the experience?
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Bob
February 9, 2013
A review here.
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Justin Caouette
February 11, 2013
Thanks, Bob.
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DeMorrieaux
February 12, 2013
LOVE THIS!
I was going to write on a topic closely related to this.
As a Christian, I generally believe that only God truly “BE” and that life is a journey of “becoming”. In essence, the more we seek Him and the closer we draw to Him, the more we are being changed into true images of Self: reflections of Him.
But anyway, great write-up! 😀
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Justin Caouette
February 12, 2013
Thanks.
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jtf4661
May 8, 2013
Hi Justin,
How have you been doing?
The self is not some stagnant thing, and the self is a stagnant thing. Who I was yesterday can never be anything other than what it was, if anything about it changed it would become non existent. I know that what I am right now will not be what I am tomorrow. I also know what ever it is it will be me wholly new. The I is only complete when it becomes non existent, and can never be known by me, that is when the thread is broken but also when the thread is completed. I am only partially something as I live each day, composed of memories and future desires both of which are non existent. Before I was I was not and when I am no longer I will be. That is the point at which change stops and I become something complete, but in my completeness there is nonexistence, but this non-existence is with me always, each moment I become something and also give way to something that no longer exists. I can’t become unless I cease to exist, in this ceasing to exist is the freedom to become.
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Justin Caouette
May 15, 2013
Hi Jay, I’m well.
Thanks for the comment. Logically, I can’t see how something can be stagnant and not stagnant at the SAME TIME. Also, to think that if any one thing changes from one time to the next that it becomes non-existant might be true but I want to know what the relation is from one thing to the next. For instance, the me I am referring to now and the thing I refer to as myself tomorrow is different. But, the relation from what I am today and what I was yesterday is a closer relation between what I am today and what you are today or yesterday. I am curious as to what the self is at any given moment with the understanding that it does change with each experience. “Something” seems to persist through these experiences and I am interested in uncovering what that is. It might just be a relation, but what is related? The experiences?
One other thought. You say that freedom exists in ceasing to exist. However, what has freedom of nothing exists?
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jtf4661
May 16, 2013
This body has a brain which has thoughts of which some are memories which persist. Like the wake of a boat through water are connected to the boat so too are memories connected to this body or brain. So yes in a way experience is what persists. I am a sum of my experiences which are filled with relations to things. I contain things which have no actual existence, a container of nothings. The simplest analogy I can give is a record being played on a phonograph, the needles point is in contact with the record is the self with one more piece of equipment which allows feedback from all points on the record in addition to the contact point and is simultaneous and can alter the track forward and back on the signal the needle picks up but doesn’t physically alter anything.
Freedom to become.
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saijanai
August 7, 2013
in reddit.com/r/philosophy, I posted a short description of a research program that studies people involved in a non-Buddhist meditation practice (not mindfulness, not concentrative) that, unlike mindfulness and concentrative techniques, actually enhances the functioning of the parts of the brain thought to be responsible for sense of self. Long-term participants sometimes report a permanent sense of self that persists 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, whether waking, dreaming or in deep sleep: http://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/1hklet/how_do_we_defineidentify_ourselves/cavrywg
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Alec Julien
November 7, 2013
Seriously? “Geoffrey Lebinitz”?
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Justin Caouette
November 7, 2013
Fixed. In all fairness, how many people say his first name when discussing his work? No excuse for the last name mistake though.
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Sartaj
January 28, 2015
Not to deviate from the topic, but I find it very strange that we end up being acknowledged, known, and even celebrated for our last names. Whereas it is, should be, our first name that should get all the due attention/respect!
It is indeed an interesting blog, thanks for sharing your thoughts Justin.
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Anonymous
May 5, 2015
well not everyone is known for their last name, think of Princess Diana, Eminem etc
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jonathan kombe
July 31, 2015
Very educative information, keep it up
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